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Yawgmoth · Jun 24, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

While I'm still amazed by the announcement of HoM going account-based, I can't imagine how they will handle the aggregation technically.
First I thought the acc-based HoM would be a separate clean one you would come into or activate and manually put in the achievements you want, coming with any characters you want. This would work with all of the monuments except the minipets one - you can show customized weapons or armors you wear to a fresh new account monument but your minis are already dedicated but not to a specific char or account. And even worse - players often got rid of dedicated minis, so they would have nothing to show. This would require an automatic way of filling the account minis monument, but if a programmer can do that, then changing Treasure Hunter and Wisdom to account-based should be a piece of cake.

Now something to think about: Is the Kind of a Big Deal title going to have any meaning in the account-based HoM, where all achievements can come from different chars?

The title itself doesn't have a statue but it changes the appearance of whole monument, upgrading it in 'ranks' from 0 to 5. But will you be able to bring all those maxed titles from different characters to your HoM to get the effect or you will need at least 1 char with "I Have Many Leather-Bound Books(4)" and fill other monuments however you want to achieve max rank "Honor"?

Tatile · Jun 24, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

I await screenshots. Not as proof mind you, but I want to know how this works before I start fiddling with my Hall.

Nice looking change, thanks guys

P.S. Not cynical, just cautious. Rightfully so?

fowlero · Jun 24, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

I've probably missed it so apologies if i have.

Is this implemented or is it an upcoming?

Another Felldspar · Jun 24, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Incredibly nice!

Thank you A-Net. Thank you very much.

Lord Sojar · Jun 24, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Oh....a....mai.....a.....ghod....... ANET has been taken over by aliens. This is not the real ANET. We have been deceived.

Jetdoc · Jun 24, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I wonder how they are going to do the minipet monument...if it will display some mix of the minipets you've already dedicated?

It's honestly the only one I've tried to fill up on more than one character, because it's insanely easy (and cheap) to do so.

Arutima · Jun 24, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Thanks anet. Now, make wisdom and treasure hunter account based

kradens · Jun 24, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

there wouldnt be ANY point of any of the titles remaining character based.

why?

because GW2 will allow u to make all ur new characters reap the benefits from ur HoM.........because it transfers account-to-account.

so single character titles//

dont make any sense.

in light of this accout-to-account thing.

THINK about it.

shoyon456 · Jun 24, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kradens

there wouldnt be ANY point of any of the titles remaining character based.

why?

because GW2 will allow u to make all ur new characters reap the benefits from ur HoM.........because it transfers account-to-account.

so single character titles//

dont make any sense.

in light of this accout-to-account thing.

THINK about it.

You're assuming EVERYONE plans to hop on the gw2 train. This is a great update that provides more incentive for people to do that, however does little for anyone who ends up sticking with the old gw1.

NoXiFy · Jun 24, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

cool, add a monument/space for gloves and headpieces and ill be happier. The fact that i payed 75 ecto (when they were 5k each from players -_-) for some gloves that people can now farm for in 3 hours is ridiculus. Give me an accomplishment for gw2 so i dont feel so damn bad.

kradens · Jun 24, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

id ur planning to stick with gw1.

how does HoM changes affect u at ALL?

Jenn · Jun 24, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

I'm wholly unenthused, mostly because it doesn't matter (at lease for GW1). I'd say what confined people to one character was title hunting, not the Hall of Monuments. What is good about this news is that it's account-wide now, which is of benefit for GW2. Cheers.

kradens · Jun 24, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

if u previous had 3 ancient armors, it'd mean that ud be able to get three ancient armor rewards for three gw2 characters now.

now. ur three ancient armors will count for one ancient armour. BUT, u can have AS MANY gw2 chars with the ancient armor reward.

sounds way better.

Solas · Jun 24, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Thank and You, Best news i've heard in ages about GW

But please make it so that if the character is deleted the account wont suffer.

Just hope the rewards are very good

Clobimon · Jun 24, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

My vision of this news is:

If each character's HoM is left on the setting "character view" it will appear no different than it does now for each character. The only difference is the ability to put up Tormented weapons.

If "account view" is selected for a the hall you're in, it will show the maximum that you've achieved without duplications. A player like myself will end up seeing a hall very similar to their "main" character's. I currently have 26 titles on my main and all the titles on any other characters (except Leg. Survivor) are just repeated ones - multiple LG's, LSH's, etc.

The main point, or best point of this news is #2 "All Hall of Monuments accomplishments for any Guild Wars character on your account will be available to every Guild Wars 2 character on your account." That's all I needed to hear to feel good. Those like myself that have one character with 25-35 won't feel like they're at gunpoint to get their others with 5-15 up a lot higher so more GW2 characters benefit. And, those with 25-35 different titles all spread across multiple characters will benefit in the same way in GW2.

good deal!

WinterSnowblind · Jun 24, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

While I'm still amazed by the announcement of HoM going account-based, I can't imagine how they will handle the aggregation technically.
First I thought the acc-based HoM would be a separate clean one you would come into or activate and manually put in the achievements you want, coming with any characters you want. This would work with all of the monuments except the minipets one - you can show customized weapons or armors you wear to a fresh new account monument but your minis are already dedicated but not to a specific char or account. And even worse - players often got rid of dedicated minis, so they would have nothing to show. This would require an automatic way of filling the account minis monument, but if a programmer can do that, then changing Treasure Hunter and Wisdom to account-based should be a piece of cake.

Now something to think about: Is the Kind of a Big Deal title going to have any meaning in the account-based HoM, where all achievements can come from different chars?

The title itself doesn't have a statue but it changes the appearance of whole monument, upgrading it in 'ranks' from 0 to 5. But will you be able to bring all those maxed titles from different characters to your HoM to get the effect or you will need at least 1 char with "I Have Many Leather-Bound Books(4)" and fill other monuments however you want to achieve max rank "Honor"?

I assume character titles won't be affected. For example if you have five characters, all with one max title each, putting them into the HoM isn't going to give all of your characters Kind of a Big Deal, it just means you'll be able to see each of your characters accomplishments in the HoM.

I could be wrong, of course, but that's my understanding of it.

Covah · Jun 24, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Oh....a....mai.....a.....ghod....... ANET has been taken over by aliens. This is not the real ANET. We have been deceived.

APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!!

Anyways this is good news. Lots more people will be going for LDoA it seems

VladDrakken · Jun 24, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Don't get me wrong, Im loving the tormented weapon updates, but I think a few of us are getting the short end of the stick with the new account-wide implementation.

You see, I have about around 80+ dedicated minis (3 full mini monuments), 25+ dedicated destroyer weapons (2 full weapons monuments), 3 full armor monuments and 3 full heroes monuments. This doesnt doesnt include the titles I tolled on different characters (4 full).

Some of us accepted the fact that the HOM was set up the way it is before the June 24 update, so we went ahead and filled up the characters we wanted to save for GW2. Yes, it wasn't perfect and it really sucked, but Anet should compensate those few people who worked hard. After all, by my count, I spent around 10mil (hard earned, not ebayed or farmed) gold to get my Hall of Monuments where its at right now.

This Bleeping bleep really bleep bleep bleep! Bleepers! Bleeping whiners!

... thoughts? Did any of you completed more than 2 Hall of Monuments prior to the June 24 update? If so, dont you feel a bit cheated and would expect a reward?

Vlad the Mad

shoyon456 · Jun 24, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by VladDrakken

... thoughts? Did any of you completed more than 2 Hall of Monuments prior to the June 24 update? If so, dont you feel a bit cheated and would expect a reward?

Vlad the Mad

No. I didn't like the system so I didn't buy into it.

I see how you would be upset, but you worked for those things in gw1. None of us knew/know how they would present themselves in gw2, and you can't really expect it to turn out your way.

Also, the new system doesnt make your accomplishments on each char worthless, im sure it'll all tie in together nicely.

Dylananimus · Jun 24, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Cheer up, it's a game

Nobody forced you to spend all that pixel money

Your reward should be your own sense of achievement, unless you only did it to make your e-peen bigger and that's all.